Friday, June 15, 2007

Condos at The Whitman: Getting Cheaper, Staying Sucky

We're in the condo market, but it's a goddamn minefield. In case you hadn't noticed, there are 2,308,729,571 units for sale in Northwest DC, and they're all nearly identical. Five or six sell each week. Now I've never taken one of those real estate seminars advertised in infomercials, but it looks like we've got more condos than buyers. And I seem to remember something from Econ classes in college about supply and demand, so I think we're in the driver's seat. I imagine there are deals to be had.

So we've been waiting for the proverbial bubble to burst, and it looks like it's about to. Over the Winter, there was a steady supply of condos coming on to the market as new developments opened. But when Spring arrived, the number for sale skyrocketed. People are bailing out, selling existing units and backing out of contracts on ones under construction, but the developers continue to flood the market with new units. In the meantime, sales agents have grown desperate.

Exhibit A is The Whitman, a gigantic new condo building adjacent to the Convention Center. I've been walking by this building every day for two years now, and I have to admit it's impressive. It does appear to have a bit of character, unlike so many of the cookie-cutter places going up. And you can't beat the location. Unfortunately, that's about all it has going for it.

When it was under construction we were actually pretty excited, and we contacted the sales office to get more information. We weren't surprised- $500,000+, minimum, for a one bedroom loft unit with a den. Plus another $35,000 for parking (not that we need it). What a deal, right? Sadly, that's been the going rate in the neighborhood for a few years, and we've decided we like the area enough that we want to stay within these few blocks. So I contacted them again to get more specifics.

They started flooding me with emails and phone calls for open houses, private showings, special events, and everything else imaginable. The message was always the same: Get them while they're hot! These condos won't last forever! Ignoring the bullshit, I asked pointed questions.

bryc3: "Where are the loft units located in the building?"

The Whitman: "On the ground floor, so you'll have your own private entrance!"

bryc3: "You mean those ones in the front? Those are condos and not retail or something?"

The Whitman: "That's right! You're just steps from all the neighborhood has to offer!"

bryc3: "There are no bars on the windows, they're just french doors."

The Whitman: "Rest assured, the neighborhood is perfectly safe. Shall I send over a contract?"

bryc3: "Safe, sure, got it. Where do you live?"

The Whitman: "Alexandria. Why?"

bryc3: click

Shaw is, to put it delicately, a neighborhood in transition. It certainly isn't Southeast, but it ain't Reston, either. And you would have to be a certified fucking idiot to move into one of those places without bars on the windows. People can, and do, walk right up to those windows from the sidewalk and peer inside. You could rob each of them blind by merely breaking one pane of glass and turning the door handle. You'd be gone with some metrosexual's plasma TV and the keys to his Jetta before he even woke up. And lord only knows how dangerous it would be for a woman in one those places. But in order to keep the prices high, and to project the air of safety, they've refrained from putting bars on the windows. Nice. That's crossing some ethical line in my book. There have been several murders in the immediate neighborhood this year, and there is a long-standing (although hopefully cooling) gang war happening just a few blocks away.

Thankfully, other people seem to have noticed, too. Those units are generally empty, although a few brave souls (read: idiots) have moved in. That hasn't stopped The Whitman's marketing campaign though. They're plowing ahead, continuing to pledge that the units are going fast, and you need to act now! I got this email yesterday:

"The time is at hand when The Whitman will be sold out. Thanks to the overwhelming response to The Whitman's unconventional elegance, this summer is the final opportunity to purchase a one-bedroom/den/two-bath or two-bedroom/two-bath condominium - parking included.

$15,000 Incentive! For a limited time, The Whitman is offering a closeout incentive of $15,000 any way you want it: toward closing costs, toward condo fees, as a discount on the purchase price - whatever (except cash - sorry!)."

Hang on a second, I wanna make sure I've got this straight. The "overwhelming" response you've received (not to mention the "elegance" that comes with broken beer bottles and cigarette butts on the roof) has created a buying frenzy, and you just can't manage the demand. To compensate, you're now throwing in parking that used to cost $35,000, and you're offering to give me $15,000 if I move in? Man, those things must be flying off the shelves!

Why even both lying to me? Why not be honest, and admit you've slashed prices by 10% in attempt to move units that are unsafe and sitting on the market? Oh, right, the whole panic thing. Sorry.

15 comments:

media concepts said...

Thanks, that was insightful not only as to the condo market, but as to the practice of sales people generally. When I moved to California last fall, I dealt with a saleslady at my apartment building here, as well as two health insurance salesmen. I asked them all very specific questions to cut through the usual sales pitches. In all cases, they outright lied to me. Now whenever I deal with any salesperson, whether they are wearing polyester and selling Circuit City televisions, or Manolo Blahniks and selling expensive homes, I assume everything they are telling me is a lie designed simply to make their sale and earn them money. I act accordingly, by asking for written documentation whenever possible and by being a bit skeptical.

bryc3 said...

Hi, welcome, and glad you liked the post.

I was very tempted to include the names of the people I've dealth with at The Whitman, as well as the other agents who've lied to me about various things throughout this process. I might start doing that, although I'll probably get sued, lol.

Anonymous said...

remember in any libel lawsuit truth is a defense.

- Your friendly neighborhood indielawyer

Anonymous said...

FYI, they have always included parking with the units. I know because I bought a unit on day one pre-construct in March 2005. Otherwise your story is on the mark. People like myself bought one because as you alluded to, this building is one of the best in a great area and in 3 to 5 years once the Marriott is built and the area gets better, these properties hopefully will appreciate.

bryc3 said...

Hi Whitman Owner,

That's the first I've heard about the parking. Perhaps they started charging for parking later in the sales cycle? When we were talking with them, they definitely quoted us prices with parking and without.

If you want the neighborhood to "get better," (that can be a pretty loaded term, I hope we have the same vision of "better") pay close attention to the hypocritical, homophobic assholes that run the Shiloh Baptist Church. They're almost completely responsible for the lack of retail growth on 9th street:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/27/AR2007062701213.html

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the blog - very interesting. I also bought in 2005, parking included in the cost -

I agree that the building is impressive, and one of a kind in the area -

My disappointment with the building are its residents. Check out this blog, its unbelievable.

http://thewhitmandc.blogspot.com/index.html

Whitman Watcher said...

Ahh, one of my fellow (rule breaking no doubt) residents at The Whitman... doing their usual best to spread cheer and joy.

You're (meaning the anonymous poster) complaining because our blog -- http://thewhitmandc.blogspot.com/ -- calls people like you out for breaking the rules and degrading The Whitman... even Bryc3 mentions the disgusting broken beer bottles and cancer stick butts that end up on the roof... causing fires (actually happened thanks to a lame smoker on the roof)

Bryc3, you are SO right about those ill-conceived units on the ground floor. If you ever go inside The Whitman, you'll see a tiny model of what the front grounds were SUPPOSED to look like...beautiful brick work. Oops...not what happened in reality.

They finally put up a guard rail in place of the stone work in front of those units (some private "entrance..." there is no gate or walkway to use those doors)...the guard rail was an unattractive shade of red and they've been painting it black today -- looks much better.

Point blank, those (and other units) are wildly over-priced considering the market... and this coming from someone who already lives at The Whitman and loves it... overall.

The residents are really split into two factions: responsible adults and then those who can't leave their distant youth behind... treating the building as if it were a frat or sorority house.

Our blog, while a place for all residents to communicate, staunchly supports the rule-abiding residents and their perspective... and that is simply because it is our, the publishers', perspective.

Anonymous said...

The Whitman Blog is, in the words of a commenter at DCist, "the work of one deranged asshole."

JBravoEcho09 said...

Well it's been two years and I'm a current resident. I think the building is nothing but lovely. The residents all seem very mature and much older than I. We have a great Safeway and Busboys and Poets nearby. Of course I moved here in 2009 after many of the problems you're talking about most likely diminished. No problems here.

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